
Jordi Visser is a veteran macro investor with 30+ years of experience and the author of the VisserLabs Substack. In this conversation, we discuss why bitcoin is down 50% and whether the bear market is over, why he's still buying through the dip, how AI agents will drive bitcoin adoption, and why the rotation from AI hardware to human software is the biggest investment opportunity right now. ======================= Need liquidity without selling your crypto? Take out a Figure Crypto-Backed Loan, allowing you to borrow against your BTC, ETH, or SOL with 12-month terms, 8.91% interest rates, and no prepayment penalties. Or check out Democratized Prime ( https://figuremarkets.co/pomp ) and earn ~9% APY on real world assets, paid hourly. Unlock your crypto’s potential today at Figure! https://figuremarkets.co/pomp Figure Lending LLC dba Figure (NMLS 1717824). Loans subject to approval. Crypto collateral may be liquidated. Terms apply - see full disclosures at figure.com/disclosures/ ======================= Arch Public is an agentic trading platform that automates the buying and selling of your preferred crypto strategies. Sign up today at https://www.archpublic.com and start your automated trading strategy for free. No catch. No hidden fees. Just smarter trading. ======================= Simple Mining makes Bitcoin mining simple and accessible for everyone. We offer a premium white glove hosting service, helping you maximize the profitability of Bitcoin mining. For more information on Simple Mining or to get started mining Bitcoin, visit https://www.simplemining.io/pomp ======================= 0:00 - Intro 0:45 - Why bitcoin is down 50% & is the bear market over? 6:48 - What would convince Jordi to sell his bitcoin? 9:07 - Bitcoin as the S&P 500 of crypto 14:02 - Why bitcoin is safer than any company past 2030 17:45 - Bitcoin volatility vs. the stock market 22:22 - The five-layer AI stack & where revenues are missing 26:22 - Token budgets & the shift to specialized AI 35:10 - Are LLMs now commoditized? 40:30 - Peptides as the API key for the human body 49:24 - Healthcare, entitlements & the future outlook
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